he was idealistic where he could be in libya, he's been prague mat where i can he had to be, china and russia and i think he's sort of split the baby on afghanistan and what not. but he's kept the country safe. that was bush's claim after four years. and i don't think anyone's walking around saying i can't live another day with barack obama's commander in chief. >> rose: syria, regardless of who's president what should we be doing? >> my view, charlie, is very simple. that serious yah is iraq. it's just the twin sister. it's a ba'athist regime ruling a multiethnic society. iraq had a sunnii minority rulig a shiite majority with kurds and other minorities on the side. syria has a shiite minority ruling a sunni majority with kurds and other minorities. they are mirror images of each other. now, what happened in iraq was we pulled the pin. we removed the dictator at the top and that led to an explosion sand what american did in iraq was the geopolitical equivalent >> rose: we weren't prepared for what would happen after we removed the pin. >> but then we did the geopolitical equivalent of